In this episode of Kizomba Conversations, DJ Tati shares her inspiring journey from a small city in Russia to becoming a prominent Kizomba DJ. She discusses her initial love for Bachata, her transition to Kizomba, and the unexpected push from a friend that led her to DJing.
Tatiana reflects on the emotional connection she feels while DJing, the challenges of being a female DJ in a male-dominated field, and the importance of representation for women in the Kizomba scene.
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SUMMARY
In this episode of Kizomba Conversations, DJ Tati shares her inspiring journey from a small city in Russia to becoming a prominent Kizomba DJ. She discusses her initial love for Bachata, her transition to Kizomba, and the unexpected push from a friend that led her to DJing. Tatiana reflects on the emotional connection she feels while DJing, the challenges of being a female DJ in a male-dominated field, and the importance of representation for women in the Kizomba scene. She emphasizes the need for emotional expression in music and the responsibility DJs have to read the room and connect with their audience. Tatiana also aims to inspire other women to pursue their passion for DJing, sharing her experiences and encouraging them to be bold in their musical journeys. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into the multifaceted world of DJing, exploring themes of personal growth, the importance of mentorship, and the challenges of balancing travel with personal well-being. They discuss the therapeutic nature of music, the art of reading the dance floor, and the empowerment of women in the DJing community. The conversation also touches on the inspiration drawn from various music genres and the significance of adapting to the audience's mood. The speakers share personal anecdotes and insights, making it a rich and relatable discussion for aspiring DJs and music lovers alike.
TAKEAWAYS
DJ Tati's journey began with Bachata before transitioning to Kizomba.
She discovered Kizomba through a song that captivated her.
DJing was an unexpected path that started with encouragement from a friend.
Tatiana emphasizes the emotional connection DJs have with their audience.
She believes in the importance of female representation in the DJing scene.
Tatiana aims to inspire other women to pursue DJing.
She highlights the diversity that women bring to the Kizomba scene.
Reading the energy of the dance floor is crucial for a DJ.
Tatiana shares her experiences of overcoming self-doubt in her career.
She believes that every DJ has a unique story to tell through their music. Music can serve as a therapeutic outlet for DJs.
Reading the dance floor is crucial for a successful set.
Adapting to the audience's mood can enhance the experience.
Mentorship plays a vital role in the growth of DJs.
Personal growth is often intertwined with one's passion for music.
Balancing travel and personal well-being is a challenge for DJs.
Listening to various music genres can inspire creativity.
Women in DJing should embrace their uniqueness and express themselves.
Sleep and nutrition are essential for maintaining energy levels.
The joy of DJing comes from connecting with the audience.
SOUND BITES
"I started with bachata actually."
"I was like, what's the magic?"
"I still feel a small trembling."
"You should watch them."
"You need to adapt and adjust."
"Music is therapy for me."
"I help people with my music."
"It's a beautiful thing."
"Mentorship is really important."
"You need to take care of yourself."
"I would show you the old passion."
"Don't be afraid to be yourself."
"You can do it for sure, absolutely."
TRANSCRIPT
Victor (00:00)
Hello, Kizomba friends and welcome to another episode of Kizomba Conversations. As always, I'm your host, Victor. Today we are joined by a super talented DJ, DJ Tatiana, all the way from Russia is here to talk to us about her Kizomba journey. She's not only passionate about Kizomba, but she's passionate about DJing. So let's welcome Tatiana to the podcast. Hello, Tatiana, how are you?
Tatiana (00:24)
Hello, Victor. Hello, my dear friends who are going to listen to our podcast. And thank you so much to invite me for your conversations, for your podcast. my name is Tatiana. I am DJ Tati. And yeah, let's talk.
Victor (00:40)
Let's talk.
Okay. No, fantastic. And thank you very much for joining us. It's great to have you. And we're looking forward to a conversation with you DJ Tatiana, because I know that you love Kizomba and I know you've been DJing for a while and we really want to hear that story of yours. Okay. But as always, the first thing we want to do is find out a bit about you. So tell the people listening, the people watching who is DJ Tatiana or DJ Tati.
Tatiana (00:57)
Right.
Victor (01:07)
Where are you from? Give us a bit about your background.
Tatiana (01:10)
Okay, okay, okay. So yeah, like you said, I'm from Russia and now currently I'm living in Moscow, but I didn't, I wasn't born in Moscow. I was born in south of Russia. It was small city and I'm actually happy about my childhood to spend not in such dynamic city as Moscow is. And it was safe environment.
really nice people around. I have a lot of friends. Now unfortunately we lost our contacts, know how it's going, because I left the city around 15 years old. My family moved to Moscow, so I had to find some new friends here and actually music helped me with this. So yeah, this is how it started.
Victor (01:54)
you obviously mentioned the word there, music started, okay. And in particular, a particular kind of music that we all know. So Tatiana, talk to us about Kizomba then. Obviously you're a DJ now, but how did everything start in terms of you becoming a Kizomba DJ? How did that happen?
Tatiana (01:57)
Yeah.
It happened actually very very far from Kizomba back then, back to the days. I started with bachata actually. After my divorce I had to make some fresh energy, I wanted to do some thing shakes up and decided to go to dance school and started to learn how to dance bachata.
And at some point I started to visit parties, school parties. Mostly it was about Bachata, but sometimes the Bachata parties, play some other music. And at some point I've heard Criola of Mika Mendez. It was 2012, And at this time...
When I heard this song I was like what's the magic? What's the song? What's nice music? I need to learn more about this. What is this? What is the type of dance or music is that? Now we know that it's not really Kizomba in our understanding what Kizomba is but at those time there were not big difference between Zouk, Kizomba
same but we call it everything even Urban Kiz born those times so yeah and i started to dig the music started to search something i can find
Victor (03:25)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
So you were talking about Bachata, right? So you went to a Bachata class and you were, well, so you used to dance Bachata, right? That's what you were saying. Yeah. And you really enjoyed that. then you said that you, so in that Bachata club or that event, there was a Kizomba room. Is that what you were saying?
Tatiana (03:38)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Well, it was not really a Kizomba room, it was a mixed party, mostly about bachata. But I found out that this dance school, they provide also Kizomba lessons. So I decided, okay, let's try what's happening there. What is this dance? The dance teachers, these people, it's a couple and...
Victor (03:59)
Okay.
Tatiana (04:20)
the guy he spent some time in Angola that's why he brought this dance to Moscow and these teachers they were the first and only Kizomba teachers in Moscow back in the days now of course there are a lot a lot of different schools different teachers so i started to visit the lessons and started to learn and yeah
Victor (04:41)
Yeah, fantastic.
Yeah. So what were their names?
Tatiana (04:47)
It's Nadin, she's pretty known person in Kizomba world and all over the world she created together with her husband illya, so it was this dance couple and they created Kizzafro This festival is very popular, this was the first festival of Kizomba music, of Kizomba dance in Russia, so this year I think they celebrate like 11 or 12th.
anniversary. So it's pretty old festival and very well known.
Victor (05:21)
Okay, all right. So that's a little bit about how you found Kizomba. All right. What was it like when you, I mean, do you remember your, so the class that you took, you said you loved the music. You said Mika Mendes in that song, More Ghetto Zouk. But do you remember the first class, how it was, how was that for you?
Tatiana (05:26)
Yeah
Hehehehe
The first my impression was like there is nothing difficult. You just need to follow the steps You just need to follow the leader and that's it at the same time. It has their own rules their own steps and Some tricks you you you should know how to you should know better about your Body, how does it move? How can you create the?
movements and you know
it's important how teachers explain not just to show you, you should just repeat this and that, but also explain how this part of your body responds to the impulse from partner. Or it's also for ladies, it's important to show their beauty and...
show their style. It's also you need to know how to move your body.
Victor (06:34)
Absolutely, Yeah, so you fell in love with all of that stuff, right?
Tatiana (06:34)
So it's training as well.
Right and you know I think as all the people I was in love of those videos of Sara Lopez and Albert and I think when you see those people dancing you you cannot be without love to this dance also Felicien and Isabelle yeah those couples inspired yeah
Victor (06:56)
So those videos were viral videos years ago. And obviously,
yeah, then you got the music as well. you know, yeah, no. So I get it. It's the same. It's a very common story. yeah. Yeah. But then you get into it, then you know a little bit more about Kizomba. Then you start to separate what is Ghetto Zouk, what's Kizomba, what's Urban Kiz. And you start to understand a little bit more. So, okay. No, cool. Okay, Tati. So then you, you're a DJ.
Tatiana (07:06)
Yes!
Victor (07:23)
All right. And you've been DJing for some time.
a decade of DJing. Yeah. And I believe that, your DJing started somewhat unexpectedly, if I'm not mistaken, the friend pushed you into it to take your first step. Is that correct?
Tatiana (07:37)
Yeah, it's correct. It was actually a little bit weird and funny story back in the days. Yeah, my friend, she was also a teacher. She's still teaching Kizomba. And those time it was just one party in a week of Kizomba. It was literally like a legend party, legendary party. And my friend Tatiana, decided...
Victor (07:53)
Yeah.
So she has the same name as you. Okay.
Tatiana (07:58)
I would like, yeah, she has the same name as me and
she said, okay, I'm going to make party as well. And I was like, no, it's not real. Nobody will go to this. But she was straightforward. She decided and she decided to do it. at some point I shared with her that I like so much music of Kizomba. I have so many songs.
And sometimes at the party, which is just one in a week. And I think I would create this combination of the songs or I would put this song after that. So I just shared her with her, my thoughts and she said, would you like to try to be a DJ? I said, no, it's not possible. So who am I? And where am I? And to work with computer to software.
Even though actually I didn't mention that I have a musical background. have trained in musical school for piano. So I have seven years of piano. And yeah, my whole life is dedicated to music. I listen to all the time, music since very early age. So, but still, I didn't realize that it can be indeed happen.
in my life and she said okay I will make a DJ from you. said no it's not possible. She said okay just try and first party it was mixed party with Kizomba and salsa and bachata, a little bit of salsa, a little bit of bachata. I had the software I just put music to the software and it was just a laptop no controller no headphones nothing so it was started really weird like that but
people started to give me and to her nice feedbacks about the musical collection, music choice. And we started together a little bit, learn how to do it better. At some point she brought this gadget where you could plug in the headphones and you can pre-listen the music. And I was like...
It's not possible. It's like a magic. You can listen one song going in your headphones and another song is going to the dance floor. Now, you know, it sounds like unprofessional at all. It sounds so weird and strange. But that was my way to be a DJ. And later, a bit later...
Victor (10:25)
Wow. Great.
Tatiana (10:30)
I got my first controller as a gift and I say it to myself, okay, and now it should be starting to be more serious. And I went to Pioneer DJ school. So I learned how to do it really professionally. And then I got my better controller, more professional. Now it's my third controller. yeah, step by step it became more professional.
more technically skilled, et cetera, et cetera. So it's like that.
Victor (10:59)
So every time you see your friend Tatiana, do you always say thank you? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Tatiana (11:03)
Yeah, yeah, literally,
literally. We now do not talk more. We do not talk much, but still, I said I didn't believe. I didn't believe that it may happen.
Victor (11:17)
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. No, that's great. And it's great to hear. I like to hear origin stories about how things happen. And sometimes things happen unexpectedly and they take you down a different path. And before you know it, you're doing something that you really, really enjoy. So I like those kinds of stories. So it's great to hear. Great to hear. So I want to ask you then, so, you know, I want to find out obviously you've been doing it for 10 years.
Tatiana (11:35)
Yeah.
Victor (11:39)
unexpectedly, but you're doing it professionally. You you went to professional school to do it as well. But can you describe then what it felt like to transition from loving the music like you do, yeah, to actually controlling now the entire vibe of a room? How did that feel, especially in the first, first days, early days?
Tatiana (12:00)
You know, I can tell you that still I am feeling a little bit stressful before any of my performances. Even if in a festival or it's just a regular party, I still feel a small trembling. But at the same time, I think this helps to feel better the audience, to feel better the people, this sensitivity.
You know, first of all, from my point of view, if you would like to be a DJ, first of all, it's a foundation. You should get your skills, your technical skills and constantly train them to use different transitions. So you don't have to think which button should I push now or which knob I should turn or how it is. It should be like automatically in your hands.
like that. And then the emotional part coming. Then you feel the people, you feel what they would like to hear right now. At the same time, yes, as they say, we as a DJ, kind of a little bit heading this people heading and changing the direction of the party, changing their mood. We indeed, we kind of control the situation, but I think this is something like we do it.
not to manipulate, but to bring people to better experience, to better connections, something like that.
Victor (13:26)
Yeah, And you mentioned there as well that before you mentioned that it was like an impossible dream. Yeah, because you were like, I think you were doubting yourself, right? Maybe before. So
Tatiana (13:38)
Well, you know,
to be honest with you, I still doubting if I'm doing right or wrong. Still, I have my own perception, my own thing, what should be happening on the dance floor. But you can never predict in advance how your set will go. So, yeah.
Victor (13:43)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, think
so what I'm trying to find out is so because you said it before it was like an impossible dream and obviously you go through things. I'm sure there's going to be times where you might have doubted yourself. But what kept you pushing what kept pushing you through to say, you know what? Yeah, I'm to stick with this DJ and thing.
Tatiana (14:15)
That's interesting question. And you know, there was several times in my DJ career, in my career that I was so doubtful myself that my music is not welcomed, that nobody appreciates what I'm doing and I'm doing for nothing. I mean, nobody needs this. And I have my friend and another friend and at some point she
she's trying to write the book and also she is doing her articles somewhere in the internet like blog and she said even though i have five subscribers even though i have five readers they are mine readers and they appreciate what i'm doing they like they're waiting for some news from me and i'm doing just for them
and it also helps you to keep on the track as well as I love what you are doing. For example, I really like doing what I'm doing. I like to search for new songs. I like to dedicate my time to some technical tricks, even though I'm not that good, you know, still a lot of things to be learned, but...
I just love to share which gems I found and I want people to listen to them and I want to present them and that they have a good mood. They have their emotions on the dance floor. That's so... You cannot imagine how contagious is this. When I see people, they're smiling to me, they show me like hearts, know, something, gestures, which shows that...
they like what I'm doing, that's important. And this is really helps and this is really keep to stay longer.
Victor (16:04)
No, excellent. Yeah,
excellent. And that that feedback is really, really important. And obviously, we're going to have times when we're going to be questioning ourselves thinking, why are we even doing this? Do people appreciate me? But when you get those, those people that appreciate you, even if it's only five, two, or whatever it might be, you think, okay, right, this is why I'm doing this if it's touching somebody. So I totally understand that. And I get that. But
Tatiana (16:21)
Yeah.
Exactly.
Victor (16:28)
It's great that you keep pushing on and you keep pushing through, so just keep it up. I know it's been 10 years, but keep going. That's what I'm trying to say.
Tatiana (16:33)
Until
I have this energy exactly, you know, I think that the important part, are you ready to share what you have in your heart, in your soul? That's important. Until you have this energy, until you have this inspiration inside yourself as well, yes, we talk about some doubts in yourself, but.
Until then, I'm doing my best to entertain people, to let them forget about their troubles and just have fun and joy on the dance floor.
Victor (16:56)
Yeah, no.
100 % keep going, keep going. And then what about so obviously you've performed on some big festivals, some major events, you know, so what about the nerves when you do those ones? Is it bigger even or is it still the same level of nerves?
Tatiana (17:20)
Well, for sure when I perform on big stages, the temperature is higher. Let's say like that. Of course, I would say better that responsibility is bigger. But at the same time, I must confess that I cannot do my job.
Victor (17:28)
Yeah.
Yes.
Tatiana (17:46)
Do you have any expression to do a job just like to do it without any passion just to make it quickly not precisely something like that?
Victor (17:58)
I know what you mean, I know what you mean. You can't do it without your heart beating it, right? Yeah.
Tatiana (18:00)
So you can do it even even
though you know sometimes I'm opening the parties and sometimes it's just I don't know five couples on the big festival just beginning of the party but still I have my responsibility in front of those five couples I don't want them feel lost just because they are or even probably just one couple so it's the same responsibility but then this stress
Victor (18:09)
Yes.
Yes.
Tatiana (18:27)
is bigger when you have big audience. It's true. You know, I have one story. It was on very, big festival and I just started to mix. It was full dance floor. And as soon as it just started, something happened with electricity and everything just turned. And I was like, OK, I need to breathe. And people hold, me hold.
Victor (18:28)
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Tatiana (18:52)
And I'm frozen. And I was like, what I'm going to do now, what should I do then? And there someone from technical staff, came, they did things. It was less than a minute, but for me it was like one hour. Yes, yes.
Victor (19:07)
Feels like forever, right? Forever.
Even the people in the crowd, the audience, feels like forever for them, you know?
Tatiana (19:13)
You
Yes, but this is also a part of being a DJ to resist the stresses which may happen anytime, whatever. So many stresses you cannot imagine.
Victor (19:22)
Yeah, absolutely. they could, yeah. Yeah, no,
I can, well, yeah. And the thing is they literally can happen at any time, right? Anytime. so you can't always be prepared for that, but no, well.
Tatiana (19:33)
Right? Oh, for example,
once I was mixing at a party, it was a regular party somewhere in Europe, and I was on stage, and behind me it was sofas, and people were sitting there behind me, so there was a dance floor in front of me, and also people behind me, and they were just drinking, chilling, and also smoking shisha.
And the person who brings this shisha, they come so close to me with this hot stuff. I was like, oh my God, just don't touch me with this hot thing. I don't want to be burned. Yeah, was literally would be like burned on the stage.
Victor (20:08)
Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But on stage, right? You wouldn't do that.
Yeah, lots of things that you can't, yeah, no, okay, yeah, I get it. Lots of things that we can't control there, but okay. You manage it well, you manage it well. I think all you DJs manage it well. All the DJs manage it well. And speaking of all DJs, I wanna talk to you now about the female perspective on DJing, all right? So obviously we know that DJing generally is more male dominated. You know, that's just...
Tatiana (20:28)
I'll do my best.
Victor (20:49)
a fact just what it is. And you know, you're a female DJ on the scene. And I just want to find out from you, have there been you know, have you encountered any challenges from being a female in a male kind of dominated area?
Tatiana (21:03)
That's the very big and very nice question. And thank you so much, Victor, that you raised up this topic. To be honest with you now, the situation with female DJs is getting better and better. I see a lot of newcomers, the new ladies are coming and they are passionate. They are digging the skills and they bring something new to the scene, definitely.
When I started, it was literally one or two female DJs. I remember Lisa Rose and I remember Roxana. She's from Italy. Now I don't see on the Kizomba scene her, but it was literally just a couple of female DJs. And it was kind of a challenge to show that me
as a DJ I'm not bad, I'm not worse than a female, than male guys. Once I talked to one popular DJ and he told me one thing that no matter are you a female or male you should be a good DJ and that's it.
Yeah, so you know, I think it's kind of my also mission to highlight the female DJ in Kizomba scene because I feel a little bit upset when I see that there are lineups without no female DJs, no ladies at all. Now, like I said, the situation is getting better.
Victor (22:22)
Mm-hmm.
Tatiana (22:25)
and now it's become more popular now it's i should say now kind of a trend that the lineup should have at least one female DJ but i remember a lot of festivals where i was the only female DJ amongst other guys and it's not about competition no it's about the
My personal attitude is that what ladies, what women can bring to the dance floor. It's more emotional part. Guys, of course they're also emotional, don't get me wrong. The thing is that women we feel a little bit different rather than men and we create our stories on the dance floor, our stories on the set, musical set, a little bit different. I should say it's more emotional.
and i really would like this emotionality sensuality i don't know some
gentle things, some tenderness to the dance floor. It doesn't... I don't want to say that women cannot do hard stuff like urban, hard urban or tarraxo. Of course we can do everything. It's just a little bit different. So I would really love that dancers feel this other way.
and sometimes it looks like or sounded like the same. The set is the same, the same. It's good, but nothing touches you. So...
my personal opinion that women can do this emotional part more brighter. Let's say like that.
Victor (24:07)
Yeah, it's interesting. So it's interesting this part. And the reason why I say that is because when I asked you the question about, you know, more women on the scene and you said, you know, there should be women can do the same as men and they absolutely can. You know, I almost don't want to have this conversation with you, but I have to. I want to bring up the word female DJ, but I have to because it is what it is. Right. And there's so many men. So we have to address it. But what I was going to say to you is that if I was to close my eyes,
Tatiana (24:29)
Yeah.
Victor (24:35)
and just listen to music. I don't know if it was a man doing it or if it was a woman doing it, but I like what I'm hearing. It doesn't really matter if you're a male or a female. It doesn't matter at all. Yeah. That's one part. So that's, that's interesting. But then what we were talking about here now is that you're, you're talking about different energies in terms of, know, women bring more emotions. So now I'm thinking, okay, well, if I did close my eyes, would I recognize that it is a woman or a male? Do you see what I mean?
Tatiana (24:46)
Of course. Of course.
Yeah, you know, that's also interesting question. I never thought about this, but if we try to...
discuss or express our own opinions about it. To be honest with you, I think that I could recognize whether it's a girl or a boy, I mean a guy or a woman, just because you I think guys, they more about
Victor (25:11)
Yeah, unpack it basically, yeah.
Interesting. Well, that's interesting. Yeah.
Tatiana (25:33)
to show their technical skills. Like, this is how can I do this transitions? You see, I can mix this song that well. You never recognize this song because I mixed it with that song. And this is tricks and that something like showing themselves a little bit. It's not, it's not bad again, but with a woman, it's more...
Victor (25:51)
Yeah
Tatiana (25:58)
like a fluid, you know, it's like a flow, it's more the whole thing. But you see it's different, it's not something this is good, this is bad, no, no, it's just different. So I think a woman can bring more stability or something like that in a good, in good terms.
Victor (26:10)
Yeah.
Yeah. And you know what? Again, I would never have thought of that before until we having this conversation. So that's really interesting to hear. So now I'm going to be listening to some music, just going to put it on and I'm going to say to myself, hmm, let me, let me play a game here. Let me see if I can tell.
Tatiana (26:35)
The
thing is that probably if you search for mixtapes in Soundcloud, but more likely you will find mostly male sets rather than girls. But I think the time is changing and now, like I said, come more to the scene. I'm happy with this.
Victor (26:44)
Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's
yeah. And that's same here. And I think it's really interesting what you said. I just yeah, I never thought of it in that way before. But obviously, you know, you've been doing this for many years and you know the differences. So it's just interesting to to get that education.
Okay. So in terms of female representation, then how important do you think it is to have representation for women on the Kizomba scene when it comes to DJing?
Tatiana (27:23)
Like I said earlier, what we can bring to this Kizomba scene or in any scene, in any world. So it's some additional colours, some brightness, and it's all about the balance, right? It can be, the world cannot be just black or just white or grey, whatever.
it's more beautiful when it has the diversity, when you can change something in your dancing as well, for example, because you will feel something new, probably new melodies, and probably you can feel new emotions through this set of female. So for me, it's important to have female to...
make the world more of Kizomba world, let's say like that, to make it more interesting, to make it to have a lot of varieties. It's something like a fresh air, let's say.
Victor (28:09)
Yeah.
sure.
No, I understand and to make it more balanced as well. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100 % Yes. No. Yeah, absolutely. I totally agree with you. And you know, we definitely want to see more more coming out. I there's there's way more than before, but we want to see even more to just to get that rich, rich mixture for the for the for the scene. You know, that's going to be fantastic. So
Tatiana (28:21)
Right, for sure. Like in Indian.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Victor (28:42)
Yeah.
Tatiana (28:43)
You know,
Victor, what I wanted also to add that, for example, during the pandemic, we had those streams of women world DJs. was like a group of female DJs and we had DJs from literally all over the world, United States, from Canada, from Italy, France, Great Britain, from Australia, Japan, Thailand, Singapore. So it was so fantastic. It's so...
empowering me and so fulfilling that I was so really really I was so inspired to have all those ladies they each of them has their own unique style and it was so motivating to continue growing to to see that you are not alone for also because I didn't realize that there are so many girls
And when I'm anybody how many female DJs they know, hardly ever people can find five. But there are, trust me, it's maybe, I don't know.
For example, in the female world DJ, we had like 40 DJs of female, and now there are even more. Now I think I could make a list of 60 female DJs and lots, most of them are really talented. So it would be nice that the world could see their talent, could see what history, what they can share with you.
they have inside, what talent of them keep inside. that's my thing. I'm sorry that I speak a little bit probably plain because I'm a little bit nervous.
Victor (30:12)
Yeah, yeah, no, great. we...
speak perfect, completely fine, 100 % and obviously English is not your first language as well so please do not worry about that but no, 100 % so we get that, yeah and absolutely we don't
Tatiana (30:24)
You
Right.
I'm trying
to use some nice words, mean also to make the conversation more vivid.
Victor (30:38)
Hey, it's fine, it's cool.
I'm understanding it, not a problem. But yes, we definitely want to see more representation there. So that's great. And then yourself, Tati, what impact do you want to have on other women who aspire to follow this path of DJing? What impact do you want to have on some females?
Tatiana (30:54)
You know, I would like that girls to be bold to become a DJ. They do not afraid to become. Sometimes they are too shy that it's not possible. as you know, my way back in the days, I thought it's unrealistic at all, but it's possible. So first of all, I would like with my example, if I can say that, to be...
to not be afraid to start this path. And that if you're really passionate about music, if you really would like to share what you have, what you would like to say to the people, because we talk to people, it's our conversation to the crowd, right? So if you have to say something, if you want to say something,
If you have in your heart, in your soul, those fire, which you would like to share with the people, why not just try? And I was really surprised. Once one lady, she came to me and she said that looking on me, she would like to be a DJ and she started to do something. And I was so touched by this conversation. And after that,
some girls came to me so it's not just once and i was so surprised about that and it so inspired me that i'm on the right way that i help girls
present themselves, to show themselves up and to open their talent, to open what they can do to other people. It's so exciting, you cannot imagine, and so motivating. So it's really nice.
Victor (32:28)
Yeah, I think it's
great. And I think it goes back to the conversation we had earlier when you were saying about, you you were saying, you know, who am I to be doing this? your friend pushed you, it's exactly the same thing, right? So now you're doing that and then you're having the impact on those ladies as well.
Tatiana (32:39)
You
Yes.
You know, I don't want to say that I'm role model, but if I am a role model for someone to be better, to...
express themselves and moreover to share what they have inside. That's something fantastic. I think it's the best compliment I ever heard.
Victor (33:04)
great and congratulations and I'm happy that you know that that person wants to do that there's obviously is gonna be many more as well so so keep up the good work with that Tatiana and you know another thing about being a DJ or a very important thing about being a DJ is the art of reading the room right I think we talked about it a little bit before but just want to talk to this about about this bit yet so you know Kizomba is deeply connected with
Tatiana (33:06)
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Victor (33:30)
Well, you could say energy and emotion, maybe, well, energy, definitely when you're, when you're dancing and could be emotion as well. So people come to Kizomba for lots of different reasons. You know, they want to de-stress. They just love the music. They want to hang out with friends. But the point is they're coming out to have a good time. And then as a DJ, you're kind of making that for them. It's a bit of a responsibility on your part, which is why we were talking about nerves before. All right. So my question is what's the...
What's the secret when you're DJing, you know, to keeping the dance floor alive? What do you do? What do you look out for?
Tatiana (34:07)
And that's a really interesting question, but I think every DJ came through this, how to read the people, how to read their energy. And I can tell you the truth about myself, that sometimes I am stuck in the energy and I stuck in myself.
Victor (34:20)
Okay.
Tatiana (34:28)
and literally I don't know what to play and I'm just okay I will play my favourite songs and see where it's going on. It's like this inspiration it came I don't know how it came and where it comes from probably
it's literally from the dance floor and sometimes we spoke to DJs and sometimes we said to each other well tonight was difficult something not going well i don't know why the the energy in the room something something heavy but to be honest sometimes it happened not all the time otherwise i think we would be drawn emotionally every time but
most of the time first for me which is important it's i don't know it's on the subconscious thing it's something like literally subconscious because i i think i would i would put this song but i watch the dances and say no they don't want to change the energy they for example they want to do something romantic now they want to have in romantic mood and i
change the way to romantic mode, for example. Also, I notice some, sometimes I watch some of my friends, for example, and I watch how do they dance. Do they connect to the partner or they split? means that for me it's a signal that something is going wrong. So I know there are debates as well that how we can make more vivid and let's...
to change partners more often because know Kizomba is the dance when you can dance i don't know hours with one partner so personally i think it's it's very nice if people have their connection what can be more beautiful it means that my story is good for them for example and how to read the people you should watch them you should watch
and sometimes I connect with the eyes of dancers and they smile to me and I understand that I'm doing good and or I smile and got the smile back. You know this is exchanging of small gestures of I don't know sides, smiles. That's something that helps to understand what people would like to have right now.
Victor (36:48)
Yeah, no. Great, great, great. And thank you for being honest in that answer in terms of saying that, sometimes you don't know what to play next. You know, not everyone's that honest. So yeah.
Tatiana (36:48)
something like that.
Yeah, you know, you
know, I can tell you this, that I have a son, he's 20 years old and he's doing his...
not electronic painting, painting on the computer, not really with pens or whatever, but it's on the computers. And sometimes he come to me and said, I don't know what to draw. I don't know what I want to express because there is nothing. I'm empty. And I totally understand that sometimes I come to the party and I understand I'm empty. I don't know how can I manage the party.
That's the real thing. I don't say it's come often, but sometimes probably I have too many things going on in my head, but it happens. But the good thing here is then you need just to start. You start when I'm stuck like that. Like I said, I put my my own favourite melodies and they helped me to grab this energy to go the floor, to find the flow and
go with the flow.
Victor (38:00)
and it comes, comes because
you'll feel it, something will happen and also the experience that you have as well. that's great, Tatiana. But one question I want to ask you though, because you know, it's great, everything is great, right? And you mentioned about when you get the feedback, you know, you get the eyes, you get the smile and it's good. What happens if you get a not a smile or a different look?
Or one that's not so pleasing. How do you handle that?
Tatiana (38:28)
yeah it's also happened let's be honest
it's also happened for example i think that this song will be great for the moment but it don't it doesn't so and i see that people are leaving the dance floor and that's the sign that i need to change something that i'm trying okay i will change this to this flow i will change to this genre let's see if they come back or not they are not come back okay then i need to
Victor (38:54)
Yeah.
Tatiana (38:56)
Sometimes I need to search which mood is better for the moment, because I feel, for example, it's romantic part, but the dance floor thinks that the time to urban running, you know, so you need to adopt and to adjust sometimes. Well, you can say, for example, you're a DJ, you can manage the dance floor and manipulate them.
Victor (39:10)
Yeah.
Tatiana (39:20)
something like that that you can lead them whatever you want yeah sometimes they do like that but like I said it's not all the time sometimes they actually the dance floor order to you no we are not going to do this romantic we don't need this slow smooth stuff just give us some part urban so
Victor (39:21)
Yeah, yeah.
time.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Sometimes it can be a tricky night. Yeah.
Tatiana (39:45)
It's the beauty, absolutely. And
the beauty of this, that this is alive. And it's not something solid. You cannot change it. No, it's very alive. has the body. Everybody has its own heart.
Victor (39:52)
Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Yeah.
100%. And I like what you said as well about, you know, sometimes with you DJs, you kind of talk and you say, this is not going so good. Or, you know, what can we do here? I like, I like the fact that you kind of help each other there as well to get through it. So that's really great as well. Okay. Then what about personal life then and passion? Okay. Just a personal question, you know, how has, how has DJing
Tatiana (40:15)
Yeah. Yeah.
Victor (40:28)
helped you heal and grow I don't know personally over the years has it helped you have anything personally DJing? Do you switch off when you're behind the deck sometimes?
Tatiana (40:37)
You know, it's literally the music is for me, it's a therapy. think from most artists, especially from DJs or musicians, you can hear the same words that it's like a therapy.
If you come with a bad mood full of those thoughts which are around in your head and you come to the decks and started to play and you literally forget about these problems and it's literally healing. And that's also a beautiful part of being a DJ because I know for sure now, maybe 10 years ago, I was not that sure, but now I'm absolutely...
I know that I help to people, maybe not all, maybe my music is not... Maybe there are people who don't like what I'm doing, but there are people who I know I help with my music, with my reading of the story. And personally for me, yes, sometimes I have those don'ts and...
This literally dragging me from those dark sides. Honestly, honestly.
Victor (41:40)
Yes. No,
excellent. Yeah, that's what we want. That's what we want to hear. OK, so it's good that what you do helps you through whatever you need, So that's great. And then how do you keep finding your inspiration? How do you find new sounds or new techniques or whatever inspiration to keep going?
Tatiana (42:04)
Right.
I constantly listen to the music, constantly. I go to work, I'm driving my car, I'm cleaning, some house and things, and I'm always listening to the music. I listen to sets of DJs. It's also for inspiration. I'm not...
Victor (42:25)
Yes.
Tatiana (42:27)
afraid to tell that I like to listen to other DJs and sometimes I do Shazam, when they're playing, to be honest with you, and I cannot embrace the whole music in the world. That's why if I hear the music which is touching me, of course I will do Shazam. Of course I'm surfing the
Victor (42:34)
Yeah.
Tatiana (42:48)
like musical sites like SoundCloud, Spotify, Apple Music. And I'm trying to listen not just from Kizomba music, I try to listen other kind of stuff like R &B, classical music, rock music. Of course it's less now, the prevail is Kizomba.
Victor (43:05)
Well, I wanted to ask you, I wanted to ask you what percentage
of your music listening is Kizomba would you say compared to others?
Tatiana (43:12)
to be honest it's something like 80 percent I think 80 percent most of all it's Kizomba and around from by Kizomba I understand and hope everybody understand here it's also Zouk also Urban is even Konpa, Semba, Ghetto-Zouk all those melodies we have
Victor (43:16)
80%. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure
you've mixed them all into your sets, right? All of them. You like Konpa? Yeah? Okay.
Tatiana (43:37)
Right, Absolutely, it's my new,
it's my new passion. I was, I think it was something like mm, 2000.
17, 18 I was in the party in Paris and first time in my life I've heard Konpa and like it was in 2012 I cannot imagine my life now without Konpa. You know, I don't know what's this fantastic, what's this
Victor (44:03)
Well, that's great. Yeah
Tatiana (44:10)
What is the magic in Konpa? Why? Why is that attractive?
Victor (44:14)
Well, it's the
same. What's the magic in Kizomba? Why? Why are we sitting here talking about it, right? It just hits you, right? It just hits you. It's a feeling.
Tatiana (44:19)
Yes, that's something. Yeah, exactly. We dedicate the
whole conversations about why we love Kizomba and it's difficult to say. It's literally something that touches the strings in your heart.
Victor (44:28)
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Just gets it. And it's a it's a beautiful thing. Beautiful thing. Alright, so want to talk to you then about mentorship, okay, and the community that we have in Kizomba and just mentorship in general. So we've talked about the importance of representation for ladies. And I believe you've you've credited a gentleman called is it Walter Correia Correia, I believe I'm hope I'm saying that career. Okay. All right. As your DJ godfather. Yeah.
Tatiana (44:59)
Korea.
Victor (45:04)
Yeah, yeah.
Tatiana (45:04)
I think
probably, yeah, you know, I don't even know if he remembers this. was a long, long, long time ago. It was my first festival here in Moscow. It was a Russian festival, not international. And Walter Correia was here as well. And I said to him, it's my first time ever. I'm going to perform on the party of the festival.
He said something... It was just simple words, but it was so calming and kind of a good...
I don't know the good word for this but when you say something in good way I something like good luck blah blah blah but at this I remember this time that he supported me that he kind of relaxed me in my first step of the the stage and I will always remember that actually I remember those people who helped me
to go over these big steps like Tatiana. She pushed me to the first DJing, to be a DJ in general, like Walter Correia, who kind of sent me good luck to the Kizomba stage. And yeah.
Victor (46:12)
Yeah. So it's important then mentorship and obviously, yeah.
Tatiana (46:14)
it's really important
when someone who is more experienced tells you that you will be good, you will be fine, will get over this in the best way. So to make you self-assure about what's happening, to give you some strength, let's say like this, it's really important. And that's why
when I have a chance to say good luck to a girl performing for the first time, maybe not the first time, but I will always do this because I remember how it was important for me when I was nothing.
Victor (46:47)
Yeah,
yeah. Well, let's not say nothing. Let's say when you were first starting out, to keep it positive. Okay. And I'm sure you're going to be a great mentor to many, many people. So that's fantastic. So, all right. So I know that you travel quite a bit for DJing. I know that lots of DJs do as well. So how do you balance the traveling?
Tatiana (46:50)
Yeah. Right.
Victor (47:16)
you know, with your personal well-being. I don't know how much traveling you're doing, but I know for some of you, can get a bit, can be a lot. So how do you balance that with your work and just life in general?
Tatiana (47:28)
To be honest with you, that's one of the challenging parts because sometimes I don't have time to get rest and people who know me and they know that this is difficult and sometimes I'm really exhausted. For example, I can arrive, I don't know, 6 a.m. in the morning and come to...
home because normally I try not to go to the office, I take home office and they start to work, let's say at nine. I start my working day the same day I just arrived from the festival. I know that people they normally they can take day off, but I don't have this chance, unfortunately. So I have to be present and that's the challenging part.
Victor (48:06)
Yeah.
Tatiana (48:11)
How can I balance?
I'm trying to go to bed early this day. As soon as possible. In fact, you know, this easy things like having enough sleep, good food. I'm trying to eat in balance. Even though I'm at festival, I'm trying to get my protein, my fibre.
Victor (48:16)
It's as simple as that, right?
Yeah, yeah, Yep.
Tatiana (48:34)
so those things that I my veggies and I'm trying I'm still trying to balance this even though it's a lot of temptations like cakes I don't know what something fast food pizza of course I like pizza but I'm trying to do it in balance so literally what helps me to recover and
Victor (48:44)
Yes.
Tatiana (48:56)
get energy from after the travels is to find... literally I push myself to go early to sleep even though sometimes I feel too much energy even though I understand that now that the body needs rest and to eat light food not heavy something also
Also, actually, I do yoga exercises. I'm not really, really a yoga person. No, don't think I'm singing all the time, But I do some stretches and it also helps to release the body tension.
Victor (49:34)
100%. So the reason I'm asking is because I know that some DJs I've spoken to, some of them I see traveling, they're all over the place. I'm like, well, even teachers as well, they do a lot of traveling and I'm thinking, that's a lot, you gotta get back.
do your own job or whatever it is, if you have another job, whatever. So it's just a lot. So what I'm trying to get at here is make sure you look after yourself because there's no point in running around, know, tiring yourself out and then you can't show up and be good or be your best. And that's not just for DJing, that's for life in general. I'm not a life coach, but I'm just saying we need you to be the best that you can be to perform. That's all I'm saying.
Tatiana (49:57)
Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Absolutely,
you know, it's the rule to put a mask on you first and then to others. So you need to take care about yourself. It probably sounds a little bit selfish, but sometimes we really need to take care about ourselves to help our close people.
Victor (50:16)
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Tatiana (50:27)
And actually, you know, for example, for me, it's really important to have enough sleep because after that, after I have a good sleep, I am relaxed. I'm in a good mood. I am more productive. I can bring you more. I will be more effective for everything, either at the festival or my work or my family. So I can do literally I can do a lot of things. Trust me, I can do a lot.
Victor (50:53)
Yeah, well, just get that sleep then and make sure we have
those hard sets, those great sets. That's all I have say to you.
Tatiana (50:57)
Absolutely. But...
Well, of course at festivals you don't have enough sleep. sometimes we have, for example, I may have sets at 12 and then at 6 and there is no point to sleep in between and then you wake up, I don't know, at some point and then at 2 p.m. you should go to social and all those, you meet people, you should dedicate your time to them as well, to talk to people,
to do some socializing things. So, and that's important to still think how you can balance your own, your own balance, right?
Victor (51:38)
No, it's good. So make sure you get that sleeve Tatiana because we want to hear those lively sets. So a hundred percent. Okay, cool. All right. So I want to ask you a question. So I, not that I haven't been asking you questions all the way through, but I'm going to ask you another question. All right. Imagine, imagine I am a new DJ. Yeah. And I, okay. Imagine I want to become a DJ.
Tatiana (51:40)
Thank you.
Okay.
Victor (52:02)
and I'm having a lesson, so a DJing lesson and the lesson's with you. So you're teaching me and it's the very first lesson that we have. What is the first thing that you would teach me as a new person coming into the setting of being a DJ? What's the first lesson that you would give me?
Tatiana (52:21)
I wasn't ready for that, but you know, I will explain why, because sometimes people ask me, would you mind, would you help me to be a DJ?
Victor (52:23)
Okay.
Tatiana (52:32)
And some people come to me, do you have some classes on probably workshops, how to be a DJ? And I'm thinking that that's such a big job to teach in someone because you have to structure your lessons where you should start. And it's a big responsibility in front of your students.
I don't have this responsibility to structure something. I am a pretty chaotic person, to be honest with you. So first thing I would ask person if she or he really likes music, if she's really in love with the music because DJ actually has a lot of challenges and sometimes we are...
We do not get gigs, we can be disappointed on that. Sometimes we had to mix the empty dance floors at the beginning of the career, it's happened a lot. You may not receive a lot of money for the DJing. You will travel a lot and you will be exhausted, physically exhausted. You can be emotionally exhausted. If you have this love to music, to...
get over all these things, all those challenges, then welcome. I will show you the old passion. The first thing, yeah. I would show that, well, of course I would show what this button means, what this knob means and the structure of music that is, how many counts it has and...
Victor (53:46)
So that's the first criteria. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Tatiana (54:02)
how to find the first beat. The very first.
Victor (54:05)
okay.
Cool. Well, basics are the basics because literally, like I said, you know, you're new, you're trying to do something. So that's what I wanted to find out. So that's cool. Where it all starts.
Tatiana (54:09)
Absolutely.
I don't know
if it's surprising or not.
Victor (54:19)
No,
no, no, because you know, if you have never had that experience behind the decks and you're like, okay, I'm here now. What am I going to do? I was just interested to see what a DJ, what would be the first thing they would say, you know, what would, where your hands would go or, but you've talked about the beat and everything. yeah.
Tatiana (54:25)
Yeah.
yeah
that there is a bit there is a speed of the songs you know you know even though even though i am i have a musical education if so for me it was kind of surprising that the bpm's are different even though of course i understand that there is slow music there is fast but
Victor (54:49)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, No, no, like, yeah.
Yeah.
Tatiana (55:01)
How can you measure this? With the speed of music, but how it's measured in this software? That's the thing. I probably look little bit stupid, but it was like me. It was for me like that.
Victor (55:08)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and you know...
No, not at all. Yeah.
And I think that this is interesting because obviously as a DJ, you listen to music all the time. So this has got to help you with your dancing, right? So when you're, when you're then dancing, you know, the structure of the music and you know, what's going to happen. The pauses where the song leans into where it needs more from you. So that makes you actually a better dancer. I would think.
Tatiana (55:30)
Right.
I don't think that it makes you... in terms of musicality most definitely because you know the like you said this poses accents and here comes this part of changing the harmony or something and you know sometimes
Victor (55:40)
Well, in terms of musicality.
Tatiana (55:53)
if you want me to be honest sometimes when I'm dancing and listening to the DJ and for example he or she is playing my favourite song and I'm so happy to dance on that and the DJ starts to mix this do not let the song go longer and start to change it and literally I think I would kill this DJ why why he or she is doing this why
Victor (55:54)
Yes, please.
Especially if it's your favourite song, right?
Tatiana (56:18)
Especially...
Victor (56:18)
You know when your favourite song comes on, you're like, they didn't stop it, like, what?
Tatiana (56:21)
To be honest with you, yeah, I become very upset and it's like, why is that? Please. Yes. Yeah. It's funny.
Victor (56:29)
Okay, so you're just like everybody else, which is great to hear. This is what it is.
That's good. Yeah.
So, you know, I don't want, kind of want to ask you this question, but I don't. So let's try it. mean, you know, let's try it. So who are some of your favourite DJs?
Tatiana (56:44)
Okay.
right it's very nice question
My favourite DJs are Pingusso. I totally in love of his mixing techniques and how he mixes everything. DJ Colts.
and this guy is absolutely amazing he can mix three four songs all together and it sounds so naturally so amazing and i appreciate a lot of his musical choice Alex Stefanio Lima that this person can do everything and the emotions he brings to the dance floor it's just fantastic probably these three but
To be honest with you, it's difficult to pick just one. Because everyone has his own style or her own style. I would really love to hear a live of DJ Neiken. It's a female DJ. And she is what I can see.
Victor (57:31)
Yeah, sure. No, no. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Tatiana (57:45)
I see what she's doing only in reels or videos, never heard her in real. I would really love to listen to her sets and dance on her sets. She's really inspiring actually. She's something amazing. So... yeah.
Victor (58:01)
Excellent. Yeah. That's okay. You can stop now. got enough. This is fine. I
know it's hard to answer that, but that's fine. You don't have to go anymore.
Tatiana (58:09)
You know, know,
know, Victor, it's How to can I say that As those guys they are my colleagues and I understand absolutely what they're going through and for example if probably if I will not name someone or for example if I Name not enough female DJs probably
someone can feel just because I don't mention their name, but...
Victor (58:35)
Yeah,
that's why I kind of didn't want to ask you the question, but sometimes we just, you it's just nice to find out what people, you know, what they like or what they appreciate because we like every everyone.
Tatiana (58:45)
Yeah.
To be honest with you, I don't like everybody. Of course, I have my favourite DJs who I named. And by the way, I forgot to mention DJ Nao. He's absolutely fantastic. And to my surprise, in my opinion, he was more about Ghetto Zouk a Zouk person. And once I was at his party,
Victor (58:51)
Mm-hmm.
Tatiana (59:07)
when he presented his new album in Brussels and he mixed such a great urban so I could not believe my ears that he is such a he is really great DJ you know those guys I got an inspiration from from them and I see how do they manage the crowd Nice Life we know him like more the person who
who does groovy stuff, know, some a little bit deep and also a little bit hard stuff. But once I've heard his set about closing hours, maybe 5 a.m. It was 5 a.m. It was so amazing, romantic music. You cannot imagine it was so beautiful. And...
also on the same party where DJ Nao was, Nice Life, he performed some authentic music. I never heard, for example, before, I heard a lot of his sets, but I never heard Nice Life mixing authentic music and it was, wow, that's great, that's amazing, that's so awesome. So you know what inspires me in a DJ that can surprise you?
So for example, you have this imagination of someone that he is good, for example, in urban. But when he starts to mix authentic and it touches so much your heart and you say, wow, it's so surprising, so even unbelievable. And I find the beauty in that when
Victor (1:00:33)
Yeah.
and you appreciate
that. yeah, no. Well, thank you very much for sharing those names with us. Okay. And obviously we can get people can listen to their mixes where they can find their mixes.
Tatiana (1:00:37)
Yeah absolutely that's amazing.
My pleasure, my pleasure.
Victor (1:00:50)
what message would you give to other women considering pursuing DJing, but they might feel intimidated? What would you say to them?
Tatiana (1:01:01)
First of all, don't be afraid to be yourself and don't be afraid to express yourself. Shine your beauty and you can do it just like this magic happen. You can do it for sure, absolutely. Just do not give up.
Victor (1:01:17)
advice and you heard it here ladies just go for it because we're waiting for you we're waiting waiting for more of you to come okay no thank you very much Tati thank you for that and thank you for sharing you know your stories your past what you've been through we want to say thank you very much for coming on to our podcast yeah so
Tatiana (1:01:22)
Yeah
Victor (1:01:39)
What, where can people go?
Tatiana (1:01:40)
Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I
wanted to say thank you so much, Victor, for this invitation to have me as your guest. It's an honour for me and a real pleasure as well as your interesting questions. And they are not banal.
right? Can I say it like that? They're not usual and sometimes I was a little bit stuck to answer quickly but thank you so much to invite me and I got a real pleasure from the conversation and I hope our listeners will do it
Victor (1:02:01)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
thank you so much. But where can we find you? Where are your socials? Where can people find out more about you, Tatiana?
Tatiana (1:02:24)
Well, my sets you can find in Soundcloud for sure. I don't know how can I tell you the link just with my Dj Tati. Also, you can find my page on Spotify. I started to release my own songs recently. So far I have just two songs.
I started with one of my songs, which is more about myself. It was supposed to be a female song, but it's sang by a male singer, Ky Sheny, very talented singer and producer and beat maker. So I'm really happy to work with him, to have worked with him. So you can find me at Spotify, also by DJ Tati. Also in Instagram, but in Instagram just pictures and some.
visuals.
Victor (1:03:14)
Yeah, no,
fantastic. So we'll check you out. But that's it. Listen, it's been a joy. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us on the podcast.
But we can't just let you go yet because we also always have a little finishing off with a little game that we like to play. We'll be asking some questions. All right. So we have three cards and you have to pick a colour and you answer the question. And then the last one is left for me and then I answer that question as well. All right. So you have three options here. So we have orange, green and yellow.
Tatiana (1:03:30)
Okay, right.
Okay.
Victor (1:03:51)
as colours. So out of those colours, which one would you choose?
Tatiana (1:03:58)
Let's go with orange.
Victor (1:04:00)
Orange. All right. So orange. Interesting question. So let's see how you'd answer this one. Bear with me. So it says here, it's an option question. would you rather, all right. So would you rather DJ, so DJ a party where no one is dancing much, but they all swear they're having the best time. Yeah. Or DJ a party where everyone is dancing.
Tatiana (1:04:22)
Mm-hmm.
Victor (1:04:27)
but they keep asking for strange song requests.
Tatiana (1:04:30)
I would prefer honestly it's easy the first option.
Victor (1:04:34)
The
first one. Why? Why?
Tatiana (1:04:37)
You know, because I think I provide them something that they're really enjoying. So they enjoy my job. I am enjoying them having fun and everybody is happy, right? But if they ask me, constantly ask me for song requests, that it means that something disturbing them and I'm not doing great.
Victor (1:04:49)
Okay.
Well the thing is that they're all dancing, yeah, but they're asking you for strange song requests, but okay. Fine, the first one's okay, no problem. I get it, cool, cool. All right, you have green and yellow left. What would you like?
Tatiana (1:05:05)
You
Okay, let's go with green.
Victor (1:05:13)
green okay
Tatiana (1:05:14)
I hope you're not cheating on me. mean, you pick the real green one because I do not see the green one. Okay. Yes, no cheating here. Honest questions, honest answers. Right. Right.
Victor (1:05:16)
No, no, no, not at all, not at all.
See, no cheating here, people. No listeners can't see what we're doing, but I'm showing her the card that has the green tag on it. So there you go. Okay, so
this one says, would you rather accidentally press pause on a packed dance floor? Yeah. Or have your laptop freeze mid-set?
Tatiana (1:05:49)
my goodness. It's better to pause. No frozen laptop. It's a nightmare. It's a pause.
Victor (1:05:55)
So yeah, I guess the accident is just you can
press pause or you can quickly go back to it, right? But I think we spoke about it earlier, right? Something when the power cuts out, there's nothing you can do or when it freezes, there's nothing you can do. So yeah, okay.
Tatiana (1:06:03)
yeah yeah yeah yeah it's better
of course it was happening to me several times when i pause occasionally but it happens sometimes you push wrong button or just with your sleeves something or buttons or some details of the outfit can touch something not in a good in a proper time so it may happen again you should resist the stress
Victor (1:06:12)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah,
okay, well that's the easy option. Okay, no problem. So thank you for, well you picked those two and you saw that I wasn't setting you up there, all right? So now we have, we have yellow, which I'm gonna show you again. You see yellow, right?
Tatiana (1:06:39)
No.
Yeah, okay.
I believe. Now I trust you.
Victor (1:06:46)
Yeah, exactly. Oh
man. Okay. So this question it says here. So this really should have been your question, but this always happens to me. But anyway, it says, it says your dream DJ battle. All right. So if you were battling someone else, would it be, so would you rather it be a legendary DJ from the past? So a legend or a really great DJ, a robot DJ with AI powered track selection. Yeah. Or a random
dancer from the crowd who thinks they they know better and can do a good job. All right, so out of these three for me, I think it's gonna have to be, what can I say? Maybe a random stranger from the crowd because you we can we can just test our skills against each other maybe. So yeah, I think that's what I would choose out of those three.
Tatiana (1:07:38)
Yeah, that would
be nice. Maybe this person is super talented and have amazing taste of songs and not terrible. No, no, no.
Victor (1:07:46)
Yeah, well I'm hoping that they're terrible because I'm going to be terrible. but what would
you choose out of those three? If you remember them.
Tatiana (1:07:56)
I would like to be a legendary DJ.
Victor (1:07:58)
Yeah. So, but this is the person you're going to be battling against, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Well, yeah. So you up for a challenge then basically, right? Yeah. Yeah. No. Fantastic. Okay. Okay.
Tatiana (1:08:01)
But yeah, it would be challenging, yeah.
yeah.
I'm
up for challenges. So if you would like to challenge me, let's do it. Even though I will fall in, even fail, failing, fail. Okay. Yes, I do. Yes. Orange, green and yellow. You didn't cheat. That's important.
Victor (1:08:15)
Fighting talk.
No, no, no, not at all. Fighting talk. But Tatiana, I wanna show you something. Look, look, look, look. Can you see this? You see that clearly? Okay, cool.
Fantastic. Yeah. No, look, well,
listen, thank you very much again for joining us. It's been great meeting you. We wish you all the best. We'd be looking out for your sets and hopefully, you know, we'll bump into you at some point in some festival around the world somewhere, Tatiana. So thank you again for joining us
Tatiana (1:08:35)
You
would be great.
Yeah, thank you so much once again and really looking forward to see everybody in my dance floor and you in particular, Victor. So I remember you authentic person. So I have something in the pockets for authentic people.
Victor (1:09:05)
Fantastic. Okay. I'll hold you to that. I'll hold you to that. Thank you Tatiana and thank you to everybody listening and watching on the podcast. Like I always say, keep dancing and we hope to see you on the dance floor soon. Take care. Bye. Peace.
Tatiana (1:09:10)
You
Thank you.